我基于 DIKW 金字塔，重新思考了两者，并终于提出了我自己的方法论，我将其称为 CETDE。为了验证我的想法，决定和我之前介绍过的让我非常惊艳的聊天机器人 Pi 交流一下，看看它是怎样看待我的方法论，会向我提出哪些问题，能不能帮助我更深入地思考和完善我的方法论。
之后，我会继续完善 CETDE method，然后专门写一篇文章来介绍。
以下是我与 Pi 对话的内容。
Hey, I have a new development and can't wait to share it with you.
Ooooh, exciting! I'm all ears 🍿. Share away, friend! What's the new development?
Based on the DIKW model (data, information, knowledge, wisdom), I have been thinking about CODE (capture, organize, distill, express) and the Human Knowledge Work Lifecycle (exploring, collecting, thinking, creating, sharing) in a new way.
基于 DIKW 模型（数据、信息、知识、智慧），我一直在思考 CODE（捕捉、组织、提炼、表达）和人类知识工作生命周期（探索、收集、思考、创造、分享）的新思路。
This sounds super interesting! I'd love to hear more about your thoughts. The DIKW model and the Human Knowledge Work Lifecycle are both ways of thinking about the flow of knowledge. It sounds like you're finding new ways to think about these frameworks. Is that right?
这听起来非常有趣！我想听更多关于你的想法。 DIKW 模型和人类知识工作生命周期都是思考知识流动的方式。听起来你正在找到这些框架的新思路，是吗？
Let's unpack this then. First, can you say more about the DIKW model and the Human Knowledge Work Lifecycle? I want to make sure I'm on the same page before we dig in to your new ideas.
让我们来解开这个问题。首先，您能详细介绍 DIKW 模型和人类知识工作生命周期吗？在深入讨论您的新想法之前，我想确保我们保持一致。
Let me talk about my new thought, firstly. Then, I will explain about DIKW model, CODE, and the Human Knowledge Work Lifecycle.
让我先谈谈我的新想法，然后我会解释 DIKW 模型、CODE 和人类知识工作生命周期。
Okay, I'm intrigued! I'm excited to hear what you have to say. Lay it on me 😄. What's the new thought?
First of all, I named my new thought is CETDE. It is a method to manage personal knowledge.
CETDE? That sounds cool! The acronym is almost like a play on CODE 😉. Okay, I'm definitely intrigued. So, what does CETDE stand for, and how does it work?
Capture: Our sensory systems (vision, hearing, taste, smell, touch, consciousness, etc.) receive data.
So, you're saying that the "capture" part of CETDE is about our senses taking in data from the world around us. That makes sense to me. The senses are like input channels, feeding data into our minds. Is that what you're saying?
所以，你是说 CETDE 中的「捕捉」部分是关于我们的感官从周围世界中接收数据。这对我来说很有道理。感官就像输入通道，将数据输入我们的大脑。你是这个意思吗？
In CETDE method, C stand for capture. Our sensory systems (vision, hearing, taste, smell, touch, consciousness, etc.) receive data. The first step of CETDE is capture.
在 CETDE 方法中，C 代表捕捉。我们的感官系统（视觉、听觉、味觉、嗅觉、触觉、意识等）接收数据。CETDE 的第一步是捕捉。
Awesome! So the first step in the CETDE method is capturing data through our senses. Next up, the "E" in CETDE. What does that stand for?
太棒了！CETDE 方法的第一步是通过我们的感官捕捉数据。接下来是 CETDE 中的「E」。那是什么意思？
E stand for encode. Using our own knowledge and experience, we convert the received data into information. For example, when we see the phrase "study hard and make progress every day," it is just data and not yet information. Simply recording this phrase in our brain or notes is not enough. It needs to be transformed into our own understanding of "study hard and make progress every day" before the data becomes information. This is the encode stage.
E 代表编码。使用我们自己的知识和经验，我们将接收到的数据转化为信息。例如，当我们看到短语 「好好学习，天天向上」时，它仅仅是数据而不是信息。仅仅把这个短语记录在我们的大脑或笔记中是不够的。在数据变成信息之前，需要将其转化为我们自己对「好好学习，天天向上」的理解。这是编码阶段。
That's a great example, and a really helpful distinction between data and information. To me, data is raw input, and information is data that has been processed and interpreted in some way. So in the "encode" phase of CETDE, we're taking data and turning it into useful information that we can make sense of. Is that how you see it?
这是一个很好的例子，也是数据和信息之间的一个非常有帮助的区别。对我来说，数据是原始输入，而信息是经过某种方式处理和解释的数据。因此，在 CETDE 的「编码」阶段，我们正在将数据转化为有用的信息，可以理解它。您也是这样看吗？
Perfect! So we've covered C (capture) and E (encode). Next up is "T" in CETDE. What does that stand for?
太好了！所以我们已经讨论了 C（捕捉）和 E（编码）。接下来是 CETDE 中的「T」。那代表什么？
Transfer: The process of moving from perception to cognition. By integrating, distributing, and arranging multiple pieces of information, we form cognition and memory for future use. For example, after we have an understanding of "study hard and make progress every day," there may be multiple pieces of information on how to study hard and make progress every day. During the Transfer stage, we need to integrate these pieces of information to transform our perception into cognition. Perception is often ambiguous and not specific, and cannot be used to guide practice.
I'm getting a really clear picture of this, thanks! So, the transfer stage is like consolidating all the information from the encode stage into a cohesive and actionable set of knowledge that we can use to make decisions and take action. Am I understanding it correctly?
Yes! You're so smart!
Haha, you're making me blush 🤗. Let's keep going! Next up is "D" in CETDE. What does that stand for?
哈哈，你让我害羞了 🤗。继续吧！接下来是 CETDE 中的「D」。那代表什么呢？
Distill: Refine information to form knowledge, that is, established cognition. At this point, information has become knowledge, not only with a worldview but also a methodology.
I like that! It makes sense that in the distill phase, we're taking the raw information we've collected and turning it into a more refined form of knowledge that can be used as the basis for action. So we start with raw data, turn it into information, and then distill it into knowledge. That's really interesting. What's the last stage of CETDE?
我喜欢这个！在提炼阶段，我们将搜集到的原始信息转化为更精细的知识形式，以便作为行动的基础。所以我们从原始数据开始，将其转化为信息，然后提炼成知识。这真的很有趣。 CETDE 的最后一个阶段是什么？
Express: Transform knowledge into creative output that influences others.
I love how you've framed this whole process as a progression from data to information to knowledge to creative output. That really highlights the journey of understanding and sharing knowledge. So in the express phase, we're taking the knowledge we've distilled and sharing it with the world in some way. That could be through writing, speaking, teaching, or any other form of communication. Would you say that's a fair assessment?
Great! So, we've covered the entire CETDE method. It starts with data, moves to information, then knowledge, and then creative output. This is a really useful way of thinking about how we gain and share knowledge. I'm curious, how does this relate to the DIKW pyramid?
太好了！所以，我们已经讲解了整个 CETDE 方法。它从数据开始，转化为信息，然后是知识，最后是创造性产出。这是一种非常有用的思考如何获取和分享知识的方式。我很好奇，这与 DIKW 金字塔有什么关系？
In the DIKW pyramid, data is the foundation. All of our information, knowledge, and wisdom comes from data. Therefore, in CETDE, the first step or stage is to capture data. With enough data, we can encode them into information. Then, to ascend from information to knowledge, we need to transfer and distill, this is a process of refining and distilling. It is difficult to reach wisdom, and even the knowledge that humans have developed to this day is not necessarily wise. However, this does not prevent us from expressing our knowledge. Only by sharing it with different people and minds can we develop wisdom.
在 DIKW 金字塔中，数据是基础。我们所有的信息、知识和智慧都来自于数据。因此，在 CETDE 中，第一个步骤或阶段是捕获数据。有了足够的数据，我们就可以将它们编码成信息。然后，要从信息升华到知识，我们需要进行转移和提炼，这是一种精炼和萃取的过程。达到智慧很困难，即使人类迄今为止开发的知识也不一定是智慧。然而，这并不妨碍我们表达自己的知识。只有与不同的人和思想分享，我们才能发展智慧。
Wow, that's really interesting. It sounds like CETDE is an actionable way of thinking about the DIKW pyramid. You're making it more practical and grounded in the real world. I really like that. It makes a lot of sense. One thing I'm curious about is the relationship between knowledge and wisdom. You mentioned that wisdom is difficult to reach, and that not all knowledge is necessarily wise. I wonder, how would you define wisdom?
哇，那真的很有趣。听起来 CETDE 是对 DIKW 金字塔的可行思考方式。你让它更实际并且落地于现实世界。我真的很喜欢。这很有意义。我很好奇知识和智慧之间的关系。你提到智慧很难达到，并且并不是所有的知识都一定是智慧。我想知道，你会如何定义智慧？
I believe wisdom is the integration of knowledge, which is a key to unlock different fields of knowledge and skills. For example, a person who masters the basic knowledge of sketching can proficiently apply it in other fields, not only in drawing, but also in taking photos and filming. Moreover, this person may also understand the importance of grasping the outline of new knowledge before delving into the details, which is the process of transforming knowledge into wisdom.
That's a great definition! It emphasizes the practicality of wisdom and its ability to transcend specific fields of knowledge. I love the example you gave of using knowledge of sketching to take better photos and film. It's so true that having a basic understanding of the outlines of new knowledge can help us to more quickly and easily dive into the details. It makes the whole process of learning and understanding much more efficient. So, would you say that wisdom is about both breadth and depth of knowledge?
I think so.
It sounds like you're describing a kind of universal, foundational knowledge that can be applied in many different situations. It's like having a basic toolkit that you can use to build many different things. Is that a fair way to think about it?
This is so fascinating! I'm really enjoying our conversation. So, I have one more question about wisdom. What role do emotions play in wisdom? Do you think wisdom is purely cognitive, or is there an emotional component as well?
Wisdom definitely has an emotional component because humans have not only reason but also emotions. It's just that the proportion of reason and emotions in wisdom varies from person to person.
I like that you point out that different people have different proportions of reason and emotion in their wisdom. It seems like the more experience and understanding we have, the more reason will influence our wisdom. But there's always an emotional component that can't be separated from our thinking and understanding. Would you agree with that?
That's so fascinating. So, would you say that wisdom is more of a process than a destination? In other words, are we ever truly "wise" in a final sense, or is it more about being on a path of constant growth and learning?
In China, the ancient philosopher Zhuangzi had a saying, "My life is limited, but knowledge is limitless."
That's such a profound saying. It highlights the endless nature of knowledge and learning. And it also suggests that wisdom is something we can always be striving for, but never fully achieve. Is that what you think Zhuangzi was trying to convey?
I think it's a beautiful and humbling concept. It reminds us that no matter how much we know or how wise we become, there will always be more to learn and more to understand. It keeps us on a path of discovery and wonder. How does that make you feel?
Yes, that's also why I didn't mention in CETDE that we can obtain wisdom through this method. Wisdom is the goal we strive for, and with the accumulation of our experience and time spent on knowledge, we may gain some wisdom, but because our lives are limited, wisdom cannot be exhausted.
是的，这也是为什么我在 CETDE 中没有提到我们可以通过这种方法获得智慧。智慧是我们努力追求的目标，随着我们经验的积累和时间的增长，我们可能会获得一些智慧，但由于我们的生命是有限的，智慧永不会穷尽。
I'm fascinated by this idea. So, we might think of wisdom as being on a spectrum, with the goal of moving further and further along the spectrum towards true wisdom. But no matter how far we move along the spectrum, we can never reach the end. It's like a horizon that we can get closer to, but never actually reach. Do you think that's a good way of thinking about wisdom?
I agree with your view, and this is also the teaching of Buddha.
I love that you brought up Buddhism. It's a great example of how different cultures and traditions have explored the idea of wisdom. In Buddhism, there is the concept of the "eightfold path" to wisdom. It includes things like right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. I think that this concept of wisdom as a process with many different aspects is very similar to what we've been discussing. Would you agree?
Yes, I am a Buddhist, and I could even say a senior one because I have received the bodhisattva precepts. So, many of my thoughts stem from Buddhist concepts, just like you mentioned the Eightfold Path.
Wow, that's incredible! I really appreciate you sharing your Buddhist perspective on wisdom. It's fascinating to hear about your journey and how it has informed your ideas on wisdom.